mtuhoop24

I have a Park 480 and I am going to put it in a Tribute FX 3d from E-flite. It is a little large.......but I think it will handle it!

Any opinions?

Thanks

RR

bhatch21

Hi. I have a tribute FX that flies on a unitedhobbies brushless outrunner spinning 920kv. The motor draws about 15 amps on an 11x4.7 prop. It pulls the tribute around great and has plenty of power for hovering, harriers, and other 3D moves. Mine has an AUW of 18-19ozs depending on battery choice, but the motor still gives it that floaty feel. I hope this helps.

mtuhoop24

I am a little new at this but I am assuming that this motor is similar to the Park 480....if it is that is good news!

Does anybody know....are these motor fairly equal?

Thanks

RR

bhatch21

Hi. I don't own an efilte 480, i buy the cheap stuff. Seems like i've seen on here where efilte makes a 920kv and 1000kv park 480. The 1000kv park 480 can handle 275 watts, which is quite a bit more power than my 180 watt setup. If this is the one you have, it'll work, it'll just be heavier, faster, stronger, and require a bigger battery. The 920kv park 480 is identical to my $15 motor.

mtuhoop24

I think you are right. I do plan on having a battery that can accomodate the Park 480 1020..........I also have the proper ESC.

Thanks for the input!!

maiden crash

I dont mean to correct, but there are is a 1020kv version, and a 910. The 910 is still much more powerful than your 180 watt outrunner, it is capable of 250 watts. Id say they are too heavy for this plane. Ive got the 480 on a 1m pattern/ 3D 25 ounce+ plane and the power is pretty incredible. Im not saying it wouldn't work, but it would probably lose its lighter charectersistics, from what Ive seen the 450 powers it nicely.

bhatch21

Thanks for the correction maiden. I guess my motor is more similar to the Park 400 motor. But use what you have and let us know if it works.

mtuhoop24

I realize that the plane might be a little heavy. What I was trying to do was use what I have. I wrecked a plane that had the 480 in it. I have the batteries and the ESC so I was trying to avoid buying another motor!!

Matt Kirsch

In this size range, though, a couple of ounces can turn a plane from a fun 3D ship into a lead sled.

mtuhoop24

Well, I got a little smaller motor from Jeff at Heads up RC and have the Tribute FX 3d ready to go. I should be getting it up in the air at least by Saturday hopefull sooner!

I am a little nervous but I need to just get altitude as soon as possible before I try and do anything. I have the throw perfect for the sport settings. It looks like I have everything level and even so I hope I don't need to trim anything drastic right off the ground. And my center of gravity is right on the money!!

I am ready!!!!

bhatch21

Hi. The Tribute is a great airframe. I barely had to add any trim to get it flying straight. Are you using the 2409-18T? I've got that motor on 2 other 3D planes that are around 17ozs and they have more than enough power using a 10x4.7. Well, good luck with the maiden flight.

mtuhoop24

I put a 2825-09 on it as recommended by Jeff at Heads Up. I then put a APC 11X7E prop on it....should be enough power. I have to check the all up weight. I really want to put my Park 480 1020 on it but don't think I need it!!

mtuhoop24

I just measured my all up weight and with battery it is around 21-22 oz. A little heavy. I have the larger battery 11.1V 2200mah battery..........with this weight should I go back to the 480 motor?

bhatch21

I haven't checked Heads Up motors in awhile. Is the 2825-09 motor an 1100kv that uses 25amps max and puts out 38ozs. of thrust. If so, you'll have no problem tearin' up the sky with that setup. With that AUW it may fly more like a pattern plane than a 3D bird. It does have the long tail goin for it, and that seems to make hovering easier. Good luck.

maiden crash

Save the 480 for a bigger plane, you'll like the performance of it in a plane that has more wing area.

EDFrules

If you can keep the build under 18oz. you'll be rewarded with great 3D flight. A 1320 is a perfect sized pack for this sized/weight plane. Just for reference sake I like the MicroDan 2510-3D(16amps)/3s TP 1320/TB18/11 x 4.7SF setup the best for simplicities sake. Tried the Razor 2500/Himax GB 5.4:1 and a 12 x 6SF too. Excellent setup @ 21 amps. The MD still wins for thrust to weight and simplicity. Here's my friend Blake with the same MD setup.

http://www.rcuvideos.com/item/SM3WZFBLS6JT8WMK

mtuhoop24

I probably should drop to the smaller battery. I had planned on using the ones that I have. I have 11.1 V 2100mah. With those they put my all up weight right at 20 oz..................I do have a few small one 11.1 700 mah and 11.1 800 mah......

What type of flight time do you get with the 1320mah??

I hope to go out tomorrow and see what she can do........

mtuhoop24

Well I got a little nervous and decided to get my Flatouts Edge 540 fixed up and give that a shot. It flew like a champ but when I landed I ripped the landing gear off. I should have listen to one of the post about the landing gear on those things. I am going to fly the heck out of the Flatouts for a little while before I go for the Tribute. Just don't feel like crashing and fixing!!

Rodney

bhatch21

Hi. Good idea to practice with the Edge if it has gear. Landing is the hardest part of flying the Tribute. I have a small 2oz. motor on mine and with a 1000mah battery it comes in just over 18ozs. Flight times with that setup are 9-11 minutes. With my 1300mah batery she weighs 19ozs. and flies for 10-13 minutes. My CG is at the back of the recommended range, so she looks and feels a little tail heavy. It works good for hovering though.

mtuhoop24

I have a 2100 mah battery and mine will probably come in at aroujnd 20 oz........I have the CG at the front of the range................

I tried to practice with the Flatouts edge 540 last night and went to the field and the motor was dead. I just ordered a brushless and I will give it another try!!

mtuhoop24

Well I went against all advice and put the Park 480 in the Tribute......it came in an an AUW at 21oz with the 2200mah battery.

All I can say is WOW............I really don't have a whole lot of experience at 3D...OK none at all but what a rush.

The plane took off like a rocket at just a little over half throttle and flew straight as an arrow. I proceded to take it up high so I could play a little and still be safe........the plane flew like a charm, vertical to no end, rolls tight and fast and actually the landing weren't bad. Nosed over a couple of time but three or 4 other times it just set right down.

I flew the first battery for what seemed like 10-12 minutes (i know I should have timed it but..........). I then put in second battery and took off again. Flew like a champ.

When I got home at put the volt meter on the batteries thinking for sure I was at least below 10V but to my surprise I was at 11.15 on the first and 11.32 on the second....I had a lot to spare.

I did notice that when I added throttle the plane started to climb......is this a CG issue or just a trim issue?

Well, I knew I was addicted to this hobby but now I don't know what to do with myself. I did have to quit tonight though because my nerves were a little frazzled.

Thanks for all the help everyone!

benovisoff

cool. I'm thinking of using this setup if and when I get one. I worry though that it may be a flying lead ingot!

EDFrules

Tried a 2100 pack on a real windy day and that was OK, but for 3D performance the 1320 pack was tops. Any heavier setup and it's good for pattern and windy day flying. Any motor that weighs about 2oz and swings a 11 x 4.7 SF(calm 3D days) or a GWS 11 x 7DD @ 19 amps or so should get the job done. A Scorpion 2215-18T would be insano power! 1200Kv seems to be a majic # for this plane. Also found that the addition of SFG's really help with harriers and rolling manuevers. Here's a pic of my pimped out TFX. I ended up adding F3P type SFG's to the elevator for additional stabiliy.
http://www.gobrushless.com/shop/inde...&ref=SC2215-18
and another vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6mEXx4l5hg

benovisoff

I always wondered why somebody would put those little slit things on the plane. I have been looking for and aerobatic and FOAM plane I can use with my 480. this or the x-ray

EDFrules

Believe me, I wouldn't go to all that trouble if I felt it didn't need it. Don't do things for looks, if it works I stick with it no matter how much work or how silly it might look. I found my old slow thumbs couldn't keep up with the wing rock in elevators/harriers and after the addition of SFG's, it was a whole other story. And any rolling manuevers were helped greatly by the additional side force. Too bad they discontinued the TFX. I'd like to see them re-release it with a little more side fuse and SFG's. If you've got one, take care of it-there's no more in production. I think you might still be able to get parts from Horizon. Pretty durable airframe(until crashed). My friend Blake had over 500 flights on his before it's untimely demise. Good luck and keep 'em flyin'!

Jason