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Old 01-05-2008, 02:50 PM
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Hello, I'm from Portugal and I want to jump in the amazing world of tail rotor helicopters. I've been flying coaxial helicopters and some pico z but now I want to have a tail rotor one.

The problem is (and I know there are so many posts with this kind of question) I don't know wich one to purchase.

I just want one helicopter. I want to buy one (not that expensive cause I allready have airplanes and paintball to suck my wallet) and stay with that.

My options are (with prices in €):


Honey Bee CP 2 -170€
Dragonfly 36 - 210€
Dragonfly 60 - 230€
Belt CP RTF - 230€

And are these helis that dificult to learn how to fly?

Thanks for your help
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Old 01-05-2008, 03:17 PM
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Yes, they are difficult to learn to fly, but not impossible. Welcome to the forums...you are always welcome here so stop back often.

My suggestion would be to find a hobby shop or a club in your area and see what they are flying. It's always easier to get help on your heli if the helper has one too.

Same for the LHS....see what he stocks and has parts for. Yes, you can order on line but you have to wait and you have to pay shipping....also he can give you advise on repairs, too.

The best way to learn to fly is with an instructor or another pilot but a good on-line tool is Radd's School of Rotory Flight. Here is a link to it and I found this really helpful when I learned.

http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html
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Old 01-05-2008, 03:22 PM
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Hello Heli Jim and thank you for you quick reply. I went to several Hobby Stores but they only sell those expensive Raptors that cost 3 to 4 times more than these options and they say that these helis are crap (they just want to sell what they have ).

See my problem eheh

I'll buy from Germany and they usually take 4 to 5 days shipping, I can live with that.

Thank you once more.
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Old 01-05-2008, 04:45 PM
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the belt cp should be a good choice, have you considered the honeybee king v2 it's a complete package and relatively cheap, shares a platform with the belt cp.

I have a blade cp which is a cousin of the honeybee cp2 I would recommend first time learners learn on a better craft. It'll fly and you can learn to fly a cp2 but they are much more fragile and much less stable than your other options.

took nearly a year for me to learn full on nose in hover on the blade.
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Old 01-05-2008, 06:36 PM
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I have several friends who fly them and they tend to be very skilled pilots-each has said that forward flight is best understood if one can also fly an airplane-why, I don't know. Also, hobby shops appear to "love" helicopter pilots as the crashes are spectacular.
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:36 AM
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OK, for now the best option is the Belt CP right?

I was really thinking about that one

More opinions? Anyone?

Thanks
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:37 AM
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Axe Cp's are cheap if u can get them.
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:43 AM
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Belt CP is the best choice of the ones you listed, just don't assume its RTF when you get it
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Old 01-06-2008, 06:13 PM
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I second that but if your looking for an RTF then consider the Honey Bee King V2 it shares alot with the belt cp and is RTF.
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Old 01-06-2008, 07:19 PM
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With some searching, you can find Esky belt CP's RTF for around $190us shipped.
Prices are dropping pretty good. Maybe the Blade 400 is pushing this?
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:00 PM
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The Belt CP that I posted the price in here is RTF

The axe I can't find it here in Europe and I can't risk ordering from the USA due to those nasty custom fees

One of the things that made me prefer the Belt CP over the Honey Bee is that the Belt CP comes with a stock brushless motor.

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Old 01-06-2008, 09:37 PM
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A good point on the BL motor, everyone with the King 2 has been upgrading from the stock motor. I had a King v1 and all the motor was good for was heating the air! If you are coming from a coax I would highly suggest getting someone with CP heli experience to help you check it out before you fly. Of the esky helis I've had, ALL had useless instruction manual and were not really RTF even tho claiming to be

Originally Posted by Giedi_Prime View Post
The Belt CP that I posted the price in here is RTF

The axe I can't find it here in Europe and I can't risk ordering from the USA due to those nasty custom fees

One of the things that made me prefer the Belt CP over the Honey Bee is that the Belt CP comes with a stock brushless motor.

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Old 02-19-2008, 11:20 AM
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Hello,
My Belt CP has arrived, a friend of mine who is totally pro with helicopters tried it and said it was a very good and stable machine and was very impressed with the price
Now... the instruction manual is horrible!!!
Can you help me with the commands?
I mean, I know what the sticks do and the left switch (Idle up) to but the other 2 switches...
Gyro SW (above the left thumbstick) and the other one on the corner right



Thanks guys
I'll be doing Radd's lessons in the mean time 8)
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:44 PM
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I believe one adjusts the pitch of the blades in normal flight / idle up, and the other adjusts the gain on the gyro.
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:55 PM
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I love this machine!!! Its so stable

I also like the transmitter, can I use it for airplanes?

Do I have to switch some of the Dip switches behind the bateries?

Thanks
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:03 PM
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you shouldn't ned to touch any of the dip switches! happy flying.
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Giedi_Prime View Post
I love this machine!!! Its so stable

I also like the transmitter, can I use it for airplanes?

Do I have to switch some of the Dip switches behind the bateries?

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So, you went from coax to a Belt CP and had no problems or breakage?
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:06 PM
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No, at least not yet, but I'm going slowly and taking some lessons from the pro guys.

Beguinners luck maybe?...
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:50 AM
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no such thing in helicopter's I'm afraid we're all beginners and well all pay crash fees.
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:04 AM
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That's what I've been told... crashing will be a matter of time... :o
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