OK Who Crashed today ? Besides me :)
09-21-2008, 10:27 PM
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OK Who Crashed today ? Besides me :)
Ok ,Who crashed their Aircraft today, and what caused the Crash, FAA crash Investigation Not needed to Determine cause 
In under 100 words, better less than 10, Explain the best you Can 
the nature of the cause
Was it,
1. Pilot Error
2. Dumb Thumbs, not considered pilot Error 
3. Mechanical failure
4. Looking at Cute Girl walking By
5. looking at Cute Guy walking By
6. looking at Cute Girl and Cute Guy walking By
7.UFO used particle Beam weapon and fried Receiver and lipo and caused other Damages
8. Builder Error
9. None of the Above
In under 100 words, better less than 10, Explain the best you Can the nature of the causeWas it,
1. Pilot Error
2. Dumb Thumbs, not considered pilot Error
3. Mechanical failure
4. Looking at Cute Girl walking By
5. looking at Cute Guy walking By
6. looking at Cute Girl and Cute Guy walking By
7.UFO used particle Beam weapon and fried Receiver and lipo and caused other Damages
8. Builder Error
9. None of the Above
Last edited by CHELLIE; 09-25-2008 at 09:06 AM. Reason: no special reason :)
09-21-2008, 10:31 PM
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#7 ---Maybe #8 
Crashed EDF, epoxy came loose at motor mount, particle beam weapon from UFO melted glue joint, that caused Crash. 
pictures at 10pm
Crashed EDF, epoxy came loose at motor mount, particle beam weapon from UFO melted glue joint, that caused Crash. pictures at 10pm
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09-21-2008, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CHELLIE
#7 ---- Crashed EDF, epoxy came loose at motor mount, particle beam weapon from UFO melted glue joint, that caused Crash. pictures at 10pm
pictures at 10pmSorry to hear that Chellie! Was the airframe salvagable?
You know we love hi-res pics of carnage around here.
When AnglerHi and I were flying this morning there was music coming from the hills. It was heavy machine gun fire! Some unit was running a .50 cal range today.
Last edited by max2112; 09-21-2008 at 10:52 PM. Reason: my wife said it's "AnglerHi and I" not "me and AnglerHi" Thanks dear.
09-21-2008, 10:59 PM
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This didn't happen today, but I'll tell the story because I just dug the plane out of the closet last night.
E-flite Yak 54. The thin white Quique kind. The first time I flew it, I was impatient and tried flying it in a school yard under a lamp in the middle of the night. There wasn't enough light, I lost sight and broke it in half. So that would be number 1- Pilot Error.
The second time, after I rebuilt it, I threw it in the air (daytime this time) and asked myself, "why isn't aileron response on this thing that great?"
Suddenly it went into a spin, and broke up pretty good this time. Post crash investigation found that I overlooked one important thing. I forgot to put the aileron servo arm screws in. As soon as I had moved the ailerons, the servo arms popped off. That's why the ailerons acted lazy and finally spun in. So that would be a #1 and #3 :o
E-flite Yak 54. The thin white Quique kind. The first time I flew it, I was impatient and tried flying it in a school yard under a lamp in the middle of the night. There wasn't enough light, I lost sight and broke it in half. So that would be number 1- Pilot Error.
The second time, after I rebuilt it, I threw it in the air (daytime this time) and asked myself, "why isn't aileron response on this thing that great?"
Suddenly it went into a spin, and broke up pretty good this time. Post crash investigation found that I overlooked one important thing. I forgot to put the aileron servo arm screws in. As soon as I had moved the ailerons, the servo arms popped off. That's why the ailerons acted lazy and finally spun in. So that would be a #1 and #3 :o
09-21-2008, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by vax6335
This didn't happen today, but I'll tell the story because I just dug the plane out of the closet last night.
E-flite Yak 54. The thin white Quique kind. The first time I flew it, I was impatient and tried flying it in a school yard under a lamp in the middle of the night. There wasn't enough light, I lost sight and broke it in half. So that would be number 1- Pilot Error.
The second time, after I rebuilt it, I threw it in the air (daytime this time) and asked myself, "why isn't aileron response on this thing that great?"
Suddenly it went into a spin, and broke up pretty good this time. Post crash investigation found that I overlooked one important thing. I forgot to put the aileron servo arm screws in. As soon as I had moved the ailerons, the servo arms popped off. That's why the ailerons acted lazy and finally spun in. So that would be a #1 and #3 :o
E-flite Yak 54. The thin white Quique kind. The first time I flew it, I was impatient and tried flying it in a school yard under a lamp in the middle of the night. There wasn't enough light, I lost sight and broke it in half. So that would be number 1- Pilot Error.
The second time, after I rebuilt it, I threw it in the air (daytime this time) and asked myself, "why isn't aileron response on this thing that great?"
Suddenly it went into a spin, and broke up pretty good this time. Post crash investigation found that I overlooked one important thing. I forgot to put the aileron servo arm screws in. As soon as I had moved the ailerons, the servo arms popped off. That's why the ailerons acted lazy and finally spun in. So that would be a #1 and #3 :o
Now i check over a build or repair very very close
09-21-2008, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by max2112
You gotta watch out for those #7's.
Sorry to hear that Chellie! Was the airframe salvagable?
You know we love hi-res pics of carnage around here.
When AnglerHi and I were flying this morning there was music coming from the hills. It was heavy machine gun fire! Some unit was running a .50 cal range today.
Sorry to hear that Chellie! Was the airframe salvagable?
You know we love hi-res pics of carnage around here.
When AnglerHi and I were flying this morning there was music coming from the hills. It was heavy machine gun fire! Some unit was running a .50 cal range today.
09-22-2008, 12:23 AM
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Dang near done the SS in yesterday when I got low and close to the tree line I planed to just Half loop and fly her out inverted and climb-out but got a tad to far over and thought I'd finish the loop, half-loop again and go on but she did'nt quite make it over and went in WOT!! Oh-Well,,, she's all fixed now except a prop I made out good,, your bub, steve
09-22-2008, 01:00 AM
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#3 Mechanical Failure. 
Lost my fav chuck conversion yesterday lockout 2 minutes into the flight bad video to follow. Figured out it was prob with DX7 antenna (I hope) or else I will be posting here again soon lol
Lost my fav chuck conversion yesterday lockout 2 minutes into the flight bad video to follow. Figured out it was prob with DX7 antenna (I hope) or else I will be posting here again soon lolLast edited by groundrushesup; 09-22-2008 at 03:36 AM.
09-22-2008, 02:21 AM
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Last week was #3. Ground wire pulled out of EC3 connector in mid flight.
Wait does dumb thumbs cover soldering also
Today though was absoluty perfect, found a new place to fly way closer to my home and had no issues.
Wait does dumb thumbs cover soldering also
Today though was absoluty perfect, found a new place to fly way closer to my home and had no issues.
09-22-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecooper
Dang near done the SS in yesterday when I got low and close to the tree line I planed to just Half loop and fly her out inverted and climb-out but got a tad to far over and thought I'd finish the loop, half-loop again and go on but she did'nt quite make it over and went in WOT!! Oh-Well,,, she's all fixed now except a prop I made out good,, your bub, steve
Glad the crash was not to bad, and its all better Now
Originally Posted by groundrushesup
#3 Mechanical Failure. Lost my fav chuck conversion yesterday lockout 2 minutes into the flight bad video to follow. Figured out it was prob with DX7 antenna (I hope) or else I will be posting here again soon lol
Bummer, sorry to hear That, I know, What ever can go wrong, will go wrong
Lost my fav chuck conversion yesterday lockout 2 minutes into the flight bad video to follow. Figured out it was prob with DX7 antenna (I hope) or else I will be posting here again soon lolBummer, sorry to hear That, I know, What ever can go wrong, will go wrong
Originally Posted by 1320fastback
Last week was #3. Ground wire pulled out of EC3 connector in mid flight.
Wait does dumb thumbs cover soldering also
Yes Dumb Thumbs covers that, and a whole lot of other things too
Today though was absoluty perfect, found a new place to fly way closer to my home and had no issues.
Wait does dumb thumbs cover soldering also
Yes Dumb Thumbs covers that, and a whole lot of other things too
Today though was absoluty perfect, found a new place to fly way closer to my home and had no issues.
And thats why I always take out more than 1 Plane 
09-22-2008, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by max2112
You gotta watch out for those #7's.
Sorry to hear that Chellie! Was the airframe salvagable?
You know we love hi-res pics of carnage around here.
When AnglerHi and I were flying this morning there was music coming from the hills. It was heavy machine gun fire! Some unit was running a .50 cal range today.
Sorry to hear that Chellie! Was the airframe salvagable?
You know we love hi-res pics of carnage around here.
When AnglerHi and I were flying this morning there was music coming from the hills. It was heavy machine gun fire! Some unit was running a .50 cal range today.
it came loose, Ray, a member of our club, saw the rudder shaking in flight, So we all think the glue or foam broke loose holding the EDF on, Take care, ChellieThats Cool, I love to shoot my 50 caliper muzzel loader cap and ball, with black power, me and my boys have been into almost everything, from rc, to guns, fishing, hunting, you name it
they are all grown up now, so its me, Having all the fun with my Rc Planes and helis Take care, Chellie
09-22-2008, 05:38 PM
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I did a runway modification to my Mini Ultra Stick yesterday. Converted it to retractable landing gear.
We had a fair amount of wind and swirling gust on the runway. Thought I was coming in perfect when a gust cough it and drove it into the ground from about 3 feet. Wish I had left the nylon bolts in the gear as it took out the bottom of the plane. Nice clean break so it will fix fine.
We had a fair amount of wind and swirling gust on the runway. Thought I was coming in perfect when a gust cough it and drove it into the ground from about 3 feet. Wish I had left the nylon bolts in the gear as it took out the bottom of the plane. Nice clean break so it will fix fine.
09-22-2008, 06:33 PM
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Poor Newjak had a BAD weekend. I've been waiting for him to chime in.... the shame I guess. 2 - 4s Lipos killed (about a month old), 1 SAPAC F22, and a blown motor in his F16.
I feel for him.
Side note - Chellie, check the "Stryker how far can I take it" thread. Autorail1 was asking about 4s on the motor that I believe that you have. If I remember correctly, you're running 4s.
I feel for him.
Side note - Chellie, check the "Stryker how far can I take it" thread. Autorail1 was asking about 4s on the motor that I believe that you have. If I remember correctly, you're running 4s.
09-22-2008, 06:46 PM
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I was maidening my new Yak 55 flat foamie yesterday ($12 Hobby Lobby crash sale special) when the motor came off the mount as I was accelerating out of a hover 
The plane came fluttering down with the motor and ESC hanging from the battery. Thankfully all the wires and plugs kept all the parts together and the plane made a gentle semi-controlled landing in the grass. The prop punched a hole in one of the wings, but otherwise no damage.
The Yak is powered by a little TowerPro bell motor which attaches to the firewall mount with two grub screws. For some reason it didn't occur to me to use thread lock on the screws
Chellie: I think you need to add "builder error" to your list
The plane came fluttering down with the motor and ESC hanging from the battery. Thankfully all the wires and plugs kept all the parts together and the plane made a gentle semi-controlled landing in the grass. The prop punched a hole in one of the wings, but otherwise no damage.The Yak is powered by a little TowerPro bell motor which attaches to the firewall mount with two grub screws. For some reason it didn't occur to me to use thread lock on the screws
Chellie: I think you need to add "builder error" to your list
09-22-2008, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by idealhobbies
Poor Newjak had a BAD weekend. I've been waiting for him to chime in.... the shame I guess. 2 - 4s Lipos killed (about a month old), 1 SAPAC F22, and a blown motor in his F16.
I feel for him.
Side note - Chellie, check the "Stryker how far can I take it" thread. Autorail1 was asking about 4s on the motor that I believe that you have. If I remember correctly, you're running 4s.
I feel for him.
Side note - Chellie, check the "Stryker how far can I take it" thread. Autorail1 was asking about 4s on the motor that I believe that you have. If I remember correctly, you're running 4s.
09-22-2008, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by idealhobbies
Poor Newjak had a BAD weekend. I've been waiting for him to chime in.... the shame I guess. 2 - 4s Lipos killed (about a month old), 1 SAPAC F22, and a blown motor in his F16.
I feel for him.
Side note - Chellie, check the "Stryker how far can I take it" thread. Autorail1 was asking about 4s on the motor that I believe that you have. If I remember correctly, you're running 4s.
I feel for him.
Side note - Chellie, check the "Stryker how far can I take it" thread. Autorail1 was asking about 4s on the motor that I believe that you have. If I remember correctly, you're running 4s.
09-22-2008, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by newjak
Well, I WAS prepared to suffer in solitude. I guess misery loves company! I just placed an order to replace the lipos and motor. I will tackle the F-22 tomorow
Its better if we all Suffer Together 
Take care, Chellie
09-22-2008, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly Time
I was maidening my new Yak 55 flat foamie yesterday ($12 Hobby Lobby crash sale special) when the motor came off the mount as I was accelerating out of a hover The plane came fluttering down with the motor and ESC hanging from the battery. Thankfully all the wires and plugs kept all the parts together and the plane made a gentle semi-controlled landing in the grass. The prop punched a hole in one of the wings, but otherwise no damage.
The Yak is powered by a little TowerPro bell motor which attaches to the firewall mount with two grub screws. For some reason it didn't occur to me to use thread lock on the screws
Chellie: I think you need to add "builder error" to your list
The plane came fluttering down with the motor and ESC hanging from the battery. Thankfully all the wires and plugs kept all the parts together and the plane made a gentle semi-controlled landing in the grass. The prop punched a hole in one of the wings, but otherwise no damage.The Yak is powered by a little TowerPro bell motor which attaches to the firewall mount with two grub screws. For some reason it didn't occur to me to use thread lock on the screws
Chellie: I think you need to add "builder error" to your list
Fire that Builder Take Care, Chellie
09-22-2008, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by darylm44
I did a runway modification to my Mini Ultra Stick yesterday. Converted it to retractable landing gear.
We had a fair amount of wind and swirling gust on the runway. Thought I was coming in perfect when a gust cough it and drove it into the ground from about 3 feet. Wish I had left the nylon bolts in the gear as it took out the bottom of the plane. Nice clean break so it will fix fine.
We had a fair amount of wind and swirling gust on the runway. Thought I was coming in perfect when a gust cough it and drove it into the ground from about 3 feet. Wish I had left the nylon bolts in the gear as it took out the bottom of the plane. Nice clean break so it will fix fine.
I cant seem to get any kind of a Break Chellie
09-23-2008, 01:59 AM
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Thanks sooooo much for posting that crash it makes me feel tons better .. To know that even YOU can have problems is great .. Don't get me wrong I am sorry you had the crash and destruction you did but ....
So how have you been otherwise ?? Have you seen the new plane Dave Powers is doing with all of the servos and gyros ?? He has Elevons and so many other things GYROS? on this plane talk about having equipment problems..
Did you get the foam sample I sent you .. I want a plane .. Super cub or easy star made out of this . Have to use some carbon F. but there is no more Breakage or crumbling foam ... I'm thinking of a Magpie type fuselage style ..IF .. I can find where to purchase this foam ..
Well cheer up pretty girls like you are'nt allowed to be down .. Just think you could be me .. 1 successful flight ..I should be embarassed to even admit that but I will "Get it" someday .. You stay out of trouble and THANKS again for all of the help you've given me , Don J.
So how have you been otherwise ?? Have you seen the new plane Dave Powers is doing with all of the servos and gyros ?? He has Elevons and so many other things GYROS? on this plane talk about having equipment problems
..Did you get the foam sample I sent you .. I want a plane .. Super cub or easy star made out of this . Have to use some carbon F. but there is no more Breakage or crumbling foam ... I'm thinking of a Magpie type fuselage style ..IF .. I can find where to purchase this foam ..
Well cheer up pretty girls like you are'nt allowed to be down .. Just think you could be me .. 1 successful flight ..I should be embarassed to even admit that but I will "Get it" someday .. You stay out of trouble and THANKS again for all of the help you've given me , Don J.
Originally Posted by CHELLIE
Ok ,Who crashed there Aircraft today, and what caused the Crash, FAA crash Investigation Not needed to Determine cause In under 100 words, better less than 10, Explain the best you Can the nature of the cause
Was it,
1. Pilot Error
2. Dumb Thumbs, not considered pilot Error
3. Mechanical failure
4. Looking at Cute Girl walking By
5. looking at Cute Guy walking By
6. looking at Cute Girl and Cute Guy walking By
7.UFO used particle Beam weapon and fried Receiver and lipo and caused other Damages
8. Builder Error
9. None of the Above
In under 100 words, better less than 10, Explain the best you Can the nature of the causeWas it,
1. Pilot Error
2. Dumb Thumbs, not considered pilot Error
3. Mechanical failure
4. Looking at Cute Girl walking By
5. looking at Cute Guy walking By
6. looking at Cute Girl and Cute Guy walking By
7.UFO used particle Beam weapon and fried Receiver and lipo and caused other Damages
8. Builder Error
9. None of the Above
09-23-2008, 06:07 AM
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Hi Don yes I got the foam you sent me, interesting stuff huh, I find it also in packaging, an Idea, you might go to a shipping store that packages stuff for you, to be sent in the mail, they might have some supplys like this foam, just an Idea Oh I crash from time to time, if you fly rc, you are going to crash, thats all there is to it, but its nice when you dont crash I go out flying, Expecting to crash, and when i dont crash, thats just frosting on the cake take care, Chellie
yes I got the foam you sent me, interesting stuff huh, I find it also in packaging, an Idea, you might go to a shipping store that packages stuff for you, to be sent in the mail, they might have some supplys like this foam, just an Idea Oh I crash from time to time, if you fly rc, you are going to crash, thats all there is to it, but its nice when you dont crash I go out flying, Expecting to crash, and when i dont crash, thats just frosting on the cake take care, Chellie
10-08-2008, 06:29 AM
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I had to make a rough unitended landing with the Super cub today.
found a new place to fly only 1/4 mile from my house.
2nd week flying. still working on the landing
first flight went fine only nosed on landing.
second round not so well. shortly after take off the controls felt funny.
Wouldn't hold in turns didn't fly straight and would flutter up and down.
decided to bring it in for inspect.
I barely have control of the plane as I am new
This was like I was drunk flying in 40 mph winds.
touched down then did a cartwheel. snapped tail off.
looks like the servos came loose after my rough landing or bad factory glue job.
All fixed now.
found a new place to fly only 1/4 mile from my house.
2nd week flying. still working on the landing
first flight went fine only nosed on landing.
second round not so well. shortly after take off the controls felt funny.
Wouldn't hold in turns didn't fly straight and would flutter up and down.
decided to bring it in for inspect.
I barely have control of the plane as I am new
This was like I was drunk flying in 40 mph winds.
touched down then did a cartwheel. snapped tail off.
looks like the servos came loose after my rough landing or bad factory glue job.
All fixed now.
10-08-2008, 08:01 PM
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Well mine wasnt today, infact it will be back flying today.
SAPAC t34 mentor RTF.
finally got CG right and it flew great (the brushless one) for some reason when I would back completely off and re-accelerate, the motor would not restart and it would land, HARD.
check connections, checked response. Did another range check. all ok.
Put it back up and was flying for ages, 6 minutes or so. then it lost power for about a second and came good again. Time to land it to check again. Landed about 100 yards away so I was walking over when I could see the smoke.
SO tell me does it count as a crash when you bring it in and it catches fire?
It seems that I lost the ESC and the motor in whatever the mishap/ connection failure was. I have emailed Raidentech and have not heard back from their returns dept.
It also burnt some foam and turned the motor mount into a dripping mess.
It should be back in the air tonight with a bigger better power system. This is my first plane too. 2 weeks old and it looks more like a demolition derby plane with the fron tend I had to fabricate!
SAPAC t34 mentor RTF.
finally got CG right and it flew great (the brushless one) for some reason when I would back completely off and re-accelerate, the motor would not restart and it would land, HARD.
check connections, checked response. Did another range check. all ok.
Put it back up and was flying for ages, 6 minutes or so. then it lost power for about a second and came good again. Time to land it to check again. Landed about 100 yards away so I was walking over when I could see the smoke.
SO tell me does it count as a crash when you bring it in and it catches fire?
It seems that I lost the ESC and the motor in whatever the mishap/ connection failure was. I have emailed Raidentech and have not heard back from their returns dept.
It also burnt some foam and turned the motor mount into a dripping mess.
It should be back in the air tonight with a bigger better power system. This is my first plane too. 2 weeks old and it looks more like a demolition derby plane with the fron tend I had to fabricate!
10-08-2008, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by j33p3r
...I have emailed Raidentech and have not heard back from their returns dept.
BTW, that is quite a plane to have as your first! Consider yourself lucky that it still flies at all after 2 weeks
. That is not knocking the plane. Most noobs would have turned a EDF foamie into packing peanuts in that amount of time, so you must be a fast learner.
