EDF pusher Jet scratch build- contest 2
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Hi Everyone
this will be my first Ducted Fan JET, so its going to be fun to try something New, it will be a profile Jet, with a 6MM wing and 9MM fuselage, the wing and fuselage only weight 2oz, the EDF is an E Bay Special
, I think a 3 cell 1300mah 20C lipo should push it, it will have elevons and throttle, its a 3 channel ,Take care, Chellie


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Here are some motor specs,
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Ducted Fan Specification
<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width=657 border=1><COLGROUP><COL width=133><COL width=517><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=133 bgColor=#00ff00 height=10>Dimensions
</TD><TD width=517 bgColor=#00ff00>62mm outer dia. x 71mm length (w/ motor)
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=133 bgColor=#00ff00 height=7>Shaft size
</TD><TD width=517 bgColor=#00ff00>3.175mm ( spinner adaptor type shaft)
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=133 bgColor=#00ff00 height=6>Weight
</TD><TD width=517 bgColor=#00ff00>71g ( with motor)
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=133 bgColor=#00ff00 height=5>Thrust
</TD><TD width=517 bgColor=#00ff00>680g / 1.5lbs ( flying weight)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Motor Specification
<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width=545 border=1><COLGROUP><COL width=212><COL width=326><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=10>Type
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>2409H/7T
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=7>Shaft size
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>3.175mm
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=6>KV
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>5300kv
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=6>Max drain current
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>57A
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=5>voltage
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>11.1v ~ 14.8v(3s ~ 4s lipo
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
RC ducted fan combo unit
54mm 6-blades w/ 2409-7T brushless motor
RC ducted fan unit, 6 blades rotor with a high power brushless motor54mm 6-blades w/ 2409-7T brushless motor
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Ducted Fan Specification
<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width=657 border=1><COLGROUP><COL width=133><COL width=517><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=133 bgColor=#00ff00 height=10>Dimensions
</TD><TD width=517 bgColor=#00ff00>62mm outer dia. x 71mm length (w/ motor)
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=133 bgColor=#00ff00 height=7>Shaft size
</TD><TD width=517 bgColor=#00ff00>3.175mm ( spinner adaptor type shaft)
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=133 bgColor=#00ff00 height=6>Weight
</TD><TD width=517 bgColor=#00ff00>71g ( with motor)
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=133 bgColor=#00ff00 height=5>Thrust
</TD><TD width=517 bgColor=#00ff00>680g / 1.5lbs ( flying weight)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Motor Specification
<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width=545 border=1><COLGROUP><COL width=212><COL width=326><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=10>Type
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>2409H/7T
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=7>Shaft size
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>3.175mm
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=6>KV
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>5300kv
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=6>Max drain current
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>57A
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=212 bgColor=#00ff00 height=5>voltage
</TD><TD width=326 bgColor=#00ff00>11.1v ~ 14.8v(3s ~ 4s lipo
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
#4

I was trying out the motor, and found out it does not like a 25Amp ESC, at 3/4 throttle it quits and gets hot after a short burst, Ok so I tried a 30 Amp ESC, same thing
Ok proccess of elimination, I tried a 40 Amp ESC
It Likes That Better
It get a little warm, so does the lipo at WOT, but, I dont think I will be running it at WOT for very long, just in short burst, as it puts out a lot of thrust, I was Amazed
I think I will have to be careful here, as to not tear off the wing
Yes you guessed it, I dont have a Wattmeter yet, its on Order
its the Watts up meter, soon, as I do need it, this motor is really gulping the amps, I would not be surprised to see 600Watts
Take care, Chellie







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thank you James, I see you have taken on quite an undertaking, beautiful plane, I like it, Take care, Chellie
Me too Jim
It should be fun, I am using the wing dimentions from my pink pusher jet, and made a fuselage for it with the rudder, it will be an interesting plane to fly, I just have to figure out where the CG is going to be at
Take care, Chellie


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I dont think i will be able to fly it WOT, it has a lot of thrust, the Plane and motor just weigh 6 oz, I will check every thing with a watt meter, even the 40 amp ESC gets pretty Warm at WOT


#9

Im going to guess the cg wants to be near your spar - probably a little ways in front of it for good stability.
Are you going to have a separate horizontal stab/elevator up on the tail or is it going to be elevons? I'd guess you will have a little more leeway with the CG with a separate stab up on the tail.
On the other hand, you may have CG issues with the extra weight in the rear. Depends how heavy your packs are.
Are you going to have a separate horizontal stab/elevator up on the tail or is it going to be elevons? I'd guess you will have a little more leeway with the CG with a separate stab up on the tail.
On the other hand, you may have CG issues with the extra weight in the rear. Depends how heavy your packs are.


#10

Hi Everyone
here are a few more pics, I got a little more done, I added some 1/8" x 1/4" bass wood on the bottom, for strength and a skid, just needs the electronics installed, it weighs 6oz at this point
Take care, Chellie
BTW I Trimed it in Pink, Because I know How Much Larry Likes Pink
Just for you Larry


BTW I Trimed it in Pink, Because I know How Much Larry Likes Pink


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the wing is 30" L x 12" at center x 4" tip

http://adamone.rchomepage.com/index5.htm
Last edited by CHELLIE; 09-11-2008 at 06:50 AM.
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Its DONE, Yea, Just have to maiden it now, I had to use a 2250mah 20C 3cell lipo to get the CG, and I tried to make it as Slippery as possible for a profile Jet, notice the air deflectors on front of the lipo and the servos, I also tried to enclose the wiring as much as possible, with a cover. on the top of the wing from the nose to the wing, I added a piece of Bamboo, to help to give the nose some strength, it helped, just incase of a hard landing
, I gave the EDF about 1 to 2 degrees of down thrust, as I found out that these flat wings, seem to like to have a little load on the wing, to help stabilize them, at faster speeds, the motor and esc seem to like the 2250mah 20C 3 cell, as the motor and ESC get very warm, but not hot, at least i can hold them in my hand
, maybe tomorrow i will give it a test flight
Yes I will have Butterflies in my stomach, every maiden flight, that seems to happen for some reason, Take care, Chellie



#15

Hi
Its me again
Ok here is a little video of the testing that went on im my Work Shop, as you can see, this thing wants to Take Off, everything seems to be working Ok, Soooo, its Madien time
Yea, here are a few Specs on the jet,
1. 55MM EDF , with a 5300kv outrunner
2. 2250mah 3 cell 20C lipo
3. 40 amp ESC
4. 2- HXT 9 gram servos
5. elevon mixer
6. Berg 4 channel receiver 4L
7. AUW 15.5oz
8. Wing span 30"
9. length 20"
10. wing 6mm depron
11. fuselage 9mm depron
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q0U1F5c0q0[/media]



1. 55MM EDF , with a 5300kv outrunner
2. 2250mah 3 cell 20C lipo
3. 40 amp ESC
4. 2- HXT 9 gram servos
5. elevon mixer
6. Berg 4 channel receiver 4L
7. AUW 15.5oz
8. Wing span 30"
9. length 20"
10. wing 6mm depron
11. fuselage 9mm depron
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q0U1F5c0q0[/media]
Last edited by CHELLIE; 09-16-2008 at 12:04 AM.
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Hi Everyone
It Flies Great
Steve flew it, Ray Lanched it and I Videoed the flight, SWEET SWEET SWEET very solid flyer, its as fast as a Stryker, handels very well, and maked a nice screaming sound as it goes by
I am very happy with this little Jet, here is a video of its Maiden Flight, Enjoy, Chellie
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQMk9FKSHU[/media]



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQMk9FKSHU[/media]
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Hi Chellie,
Congrats! A very successful build!
I tried to get some dopplar speed runs but the pilot kept waiting too long to get on the throttle and/or came off the throttle too soon or started the run in front of the camera instead of well before it.
You need to fire that guy!
Towards the very end, one run looked to be in the 55 -60 mph range but I dont think it was full throttle. Plus your pack was running down by then.
Well done!
Congrats! A very successful build!
I tried to get some dopplar speed runs but the pilot kept waiting too long to get on the throttle and/or came off the throttle too soon or started the run in front of the camera instead of well before it.
You need to fire that guy!

Towards the very end, one run looked to be in the 55 -60 mph range but I dont think it was full throttle. Plus your pack was running down by then.
Well done!


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How did you secure the DF to the tail? Doesn't look like there's enough surface area on that edge of Depron to hold it securely with glue. I have lots of DF parts lying around and was thinking of cobbling something together...probably won't look that nice though...I'm thinking of a kind of Rube Goldberg contraption...

Last edited by CHELLIE; 09-16-2008 at 04:02 AM.
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http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/show...ighlight=rifle
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