Hernthehunter

Do you think a Pulse 60xt would be decent for a sportsman pattern plane?

GOOD FLYING!!

CHELLIE

Yes and No yes if you remove the dihedral in the wing, the dihedral will mess up your aerobatic maneuvers, all the pattern planes i have seen have no dihedral in them. Just my 2 cents worth, Take care, Chellie

CHELLIE

http://www.hooked-on-rc-airplanes.co...rn-planes.html


here is a nice pattern plane
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXXHL4&P=0




http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBMZ6&P=0

CHELLIE

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4275



http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=SEA4000


http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=SEA2560



http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4755

WILDTHAWN

please define patten for us novices

Old Fart

Chellie - x2 on the U-Can-Do (loved mine - wish they'd lose the 3D sticker - it isn't)

Wildthawn, some reading material:
http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/...tics/index.htm

WILDTHAWN

thank you Old Fart

CHELLIE

Yes the U-can-Do is a Excellent Pattern ship great for the novice/intermediate pattern Pilot to learn on and polish their skills with Take care and have fun, Chellie

pd1

Hi CHELLIE, the Phoenix 7 you show is an old style ballistic pattern plane.
It flies fast and does large maneuvers , something like a jet fighter would.
It does the old time 60's to 70's pattern very well.

It sucks at slow flying and general maneuvering like modern maneuvers.
I wouldn't recommend it. Also it glides like a greased brick.

The Pulse 60 does do a decent pattern and is very maneuverable as are your other choices.

Just my .02.

CHELLIE

Hi PD1 Yes your right, the phoenix is a oldie but goodie, i just wanted to throw it in there to show what the vintage pattern planes looked like, the Kaos would be a good one too I also like the Tiporare, but its not for the novice, like you said, they run Hot I am A Refuge from the 70s
The Pulse 60 IMHO with the Dihedral will cause the plane to fall out of some manuvers, or make sloppy manuvers, a straight wing is a much better choice IMHO to make crisp clean manuvers, Its all a matter of choice as to what a person wants, the planes i listed will all make clean crisp manuvers, that was my intent to show a plane that will do it right and clean, Take care and have fun, Chellie

pd1

Actually I do like the Phoenix. It's just good at high speed.



Here's mine back in 78. The Webra speed 60 and Rhom Airs were the hot setup back then.

My Triumph TR-7. Everyone is entitled to at least one mistake

The plane flew level at 100, climbed at 100 and landed at 100.
Did big loops though, really big loops.

CHELLIE

Yea, those were the good old days with a 60 size eng, tuned pipe in a pattern ship I had a TR 250 Triumph had to rebuild the engine on it, and i was looking for the Cam Bearings know what They dont have any cam bearings, its metal to metal but it ran great with the 2 carbs it was a fun car,

rcers

Not particularly. A number of better options out there - like this one the Osiris.
http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/62-Osiris--Blue_p_15389.html

If you can go smaller (not a bad idea to start) you can look at the:
3DHS Aspera
Electrifly Sequence

If you want a legacy ship this one is good:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4755

But again the Osiris will weigh less (really good!) and likely fly a great deal better for the novice.

Mike

CHELLIE

That Osiris is a super nice Bird too

WILDTHAWN

let me get my new fj in the air frist before i start anymore projects.. that and im running outta hanger room in both my hangers all my glow stuff is out in the garage and i sleep with the eletrics and my dog

CHELLIE

sounds like you have it bad Wild Help is on the way

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/show...ight=anonymous

WILDTHAWN

so is the funjet ..its suppose to be here today.. i know its no big deal but im tired of flying the rest of the planes i got. need some new excitement .. just for the lack of building room i might try some motor rewinding to see what kind of monsterious and totaly unreal wattage i can come up with on a stock motor frame i can see it now 70,000rpm with a 3s on a 8x8 prop 20 amp esc( haha ) well one things for sure you just never know----------------------------------------------WildThawn--------------------------- ( A poor man has poor ways.. but not to say there any worse than the richmans)

viva_peru

Herthenhunter,

The Torks just had their pattern contest a couple of weeks ago, I am sorry I did not pick that up earlier, I would have told you to swing by and take a look.

At any rate, in the Sportsman class, the Pulse 60 would do fine. You just need an airplane that can roll reasonably straight and that can be flown upside down. The most important thing is to get out and practice as much as you can. The maneuvers are pretty simple, but flying them correctly is not as easy as it appears. It takes practice and patience.

I would suggest talking to one of the pattern guys in the club and see if they can do a little coaching.

Good luck,

Teo

fmw

Now that you have the definitions, I'll give you a little feedback from another novice - namely me. I'm not good enough to compete in pattern competition but I have a pattern ship and I'm going to recommend you get one too. Here is a shot of my 3DHS Aspera.



You'll notice some important features in the design. The first is the mid wing placement, lack of dihedral and overall design that allow you to do rolls with very little coupling. The design has a long, thin and tall fuselage. The length gives it stability and outstanding response from the rudder and elevator. The thinness helps it cut the air and the height gives the wind something to bear against when you are doing knife edge flight. The control surfaces aren't large enough to do 3d but they are just right for doing precision aerobatics.

Personally, I love this plane. It outflies anything else I own. While I'm not competent enough to get the full measure of performance from it, I really enjoy its stability and ability to do maneuvers smoothly and competently. I've watched good pattern fliers fly my plane so I know it can do anything I would ever ask it to do. I would view it as wonderful sport ship for an intermediate flyer.

So go out and get one. You will surely enjoy it. The Aspera is a discontinued model but 3DHS makes the Osiris and Vyper, both of which are great pattern ships. You also have some suggestions above from Chellie. Go do some shopping.

Hernthehunter

Thanks guys but I ended up buying a Seb Art Angel. She flys pretty nice. Still getting to know the plane. Pattern planes fly differently than my Pulse's ever did. Different than my small Extra 260 does too.

CHELLIE

Thats nice did you get the 30 or 50 Size plane

http://www.znline.com/produits.php?l...ata=1186487457


http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21994

WILDTHAWN

im still checkin em out.. i been flying mostly my flying wings here lately.. before i buy anymore planes i think ill get all of mine running. i hope i got enough parts. at last count i had like 22 of them hanging on my bedroom walls and who knows how many more in the garage and downstairs and that dont include the heli , nitros or 4x4 trucks and boats

WILDTHAWN

NICE and the airplanes dont look bad either

WILDTHAWN

so who's the babe

dumpsterjay

so who'sthe babe.


My guess is that it's Sebastiano Silvestri's wife

J